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Poster: nickmagoo Date: Aug 13, 2010 12:13am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

All of the Jack Benny HQ radio programs disappeared! Does anybody have any information regarding this?

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Poster: Miss Marla Date: Aug 17, 2010 6:01pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

For some inexplicable reason the explanation of the madness is posted in a review for "SHERLOCK HOLMES AS READ BY BASIL RATHBONE" by member XMinusOne.

The gist is that: a) all of the shows here are indeed copyrighted, b) it is unclear whether Radio Spirits has exclusive rights to the programs, and c)it will take a lawsuit to find out. Basically, no show on this site is safe! Take some time to download your favorite programs before they disappear.

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Poster: coolcatdaddy Date: Aug 20, 2010 1:09pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

No, it doesn't mean that all the shows listed are copyrighted.

It means that RS may believe they have a claim to them based on contracts they have with various estates of the personalities involved or other entities.

For Benny's shows, for example, it depends on the contracts he had with the sponsors and networks. Many radio shows were owned fully by the sponsor or network, not by the headline performer.

Regardless, it would have been the responsibility of the copyright holder to register the programs for copyright protection by sending a disc or script to the copyright office and registering.

Some copyright holders of radio shows did, but relatively few. Even fewer renewed the copyrights later.

Basically, someone would have to research the specifics of a show or series and be willing to go to court to fight any claim. It really would be a case for the Electronic Frontier Foundation - they'd have the resources and interest in maintaining availability of public domain works to pull it off.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Aug 17, 2010 6:40pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

@posted in a review

http://www.archive.org/details/SherlockHolmesAsReadByBasilRathbone

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Poster: drspark61 Date: Aug 17, 2010 9:24pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Thanks for the pointer. I'd better get back to downloading.

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Poster: gman55 Date: Aug 17, 2010 7:05pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

so that means that the mel blanc show,the bob hope show,mercury theater and the fantastic four show are all copyrighted?

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Poster: LizzyAstor Date: Aug 16, 2010 2:19pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

I'm so disappointed!!!! I listen to Jack Benny almost daily. This is wrong on so many levels.

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Poster: Hammett Date: Aug 17, 2010 1:56pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

I sure as hell won't buy anything from those swine. May they rot in hell.

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Poster: Miss Marla Date: Aug 13, 2010 4:14pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Not only has the Jack Benny Show disappeared, but so has Burns and Allen!! Why were they taken down with no notice? Why did this happen?

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Poster: bolivar68 Date: Aug 13, 2010 7:35pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Seriously, what has happened to all the Jack Benny & George Burns and Gracie Allen shows? How horrible! I love to listen to these shows so much, and it just about broke my heart to see them gone... can anyone explain this? Thank you

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Poster: sky dog Date: Aug 15, 2010 6:31pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Unbelievable

I guess I'm lucky I saved as many as I did. Bastards.

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Poster: Razzilla Date: Aug 13, 2010 10:21am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Is it me or does RS only want to claim ownership of files AFTER all the hard work has been done in making sure that all these sets have been error free???

I spent 11 years on my set to get it to this condition...and to have it pulled like that is a crime to put it mildly...

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Poster: nickmagoo Date: Aug 13, 2010 11:33am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

I was so happy when I discovered the Internet Archive, and amazed when I found the treasure trove of JB radio shows. I was slowly making my way through them chronologically when this happened. What is RS? Who exactly are they to remove the shows?

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Poster: Razzilla Date: Aug 13, 2010 11:40am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Radio Spirits has been a thorn in the backside of many OTR collectors for many years...

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Poster: nickmagoo Date: Aug 13, 2010 12:11pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Do they somehow own the copyrights to JB radio? If not, how are they allowed to do this?

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Poster: Calfkiller Date: Sep 7, 2010 6:43am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!



This post was modified by Calfkiller on 2010-08-14 12:45:37

This post was modified by Calfkiller on 2010-09-07 13:43:52

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Poster: M.D.H. Date: Aug 28, 2010 7:23pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Thanks, Calfkiller, for the link to the Jack Benny shows! :)

MANY thanks too, to ALL the researchers and devotees of OTR who so willing donate their time and considerable talents to keep Old Time Radio alive and FREE!

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Poster: drspark61 Date: Aug 17, 2010 3:28pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

I'm waiting for the next shoe to drop without warning.

Given that, I'm busily downloading every bit of OTR I might ever want to listen to in case it goes missing tomorrow.

I'd really love for someone knowledgable to explain the copyright issues around this. Does Radio Spirits really have a claim? Or does IA immediately cave because they can't afford or don't want a court fight?

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Poster: jeffzkrazie Date: Aug 17, 2010 7:56pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

Who are radio spirits, can somebody explain that to me? Luckily I downloaded every JB HQ episodes back in the spring.

I think Tennessee Bill's OTR site has some of them as well if anybody's interested

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Poster: Superlee Date: Aug 18, 2010 11:06pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Jack Benny Disappeared?!

-Seems all the Jack Benny OTR programs have been removed LQ - HQ-

What's funny was I was actually listening to the HQ JB m3u stream the day it was pulled. It was early in the AM and the stream was playing from show to show, then it stopped! I thought it might have been my internet had gone down but it was operating just fine.

-SL-

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